Over 110,000 people have now signed the petition against the country holding a second EU referendum.


The petition started by Ronald Mitchell called "Stop possible second referendum on EU membership" has now been signed by nearly 112,000 people.

Normally the government makes a comment on all petitions that gain over 10,000 votes, but this particular petition has been waiting nearly a fortnight for that comment to be forthcoming.

And it hit the 100,000 number required for it to be considered for a debate in the House three days ago.

However, at the end of the day I've trawled around the web looking for petitions, meetings campaigns and marches of all sorts on this issue from both sides of the debate and none of them come close to reaching even a meaningful fraction of the 17.4 million verified and valid votes of UK citizens entitled to do so, that Leave the EU achieved on June 23rd 2016.

So, in the final analysis, our government must see through the will of the people as shown by the biggest national exercise in democracy ever conducted – and Leave the EU fully either before or on the dot of 11pm on the 29th March 2019.

It is now too late for anything else and the Remainers would now be spending their time much more wisely by pressing the government for a Full Withdrawal of the UK from the EU, in short a FWUKEU.

Moving on, the Irish Prime Minister, Leo Varadkar, told the Irish broadcaster RTE that Brexit is fraying relations between the UK and Ireland and therefore undermining the Good Friday Agreement.

But as the UK has consistently said that it will not impose a hard border between North and South Ireland, it's hard to see how this can possibly be so – from the UK side.

In fact, the people who seem more insistent on a hard border are the Republic or Ireland and the EU, as far as I'm concerned.

They've both ruthlessly exploited the border to try and gain political leverage, instead of actively helping to look for a real workable solution.

Their answer is either that the whole UK should be tied into EU vassalage for all time, or that Northern Ireland gets hived off from the UK to effectively become an EU state.

Neither of those are acceptable to the UK nor to the people of Northern Ireland as far as I can see.

But of course the EU and the Republic will pursue this to the bitter end and open the wounds as wide as they possibly can whatever rancour it causes, as those outcomes are exactly what they want to see. And the sooner the people of the UK realise that the better.

Now, there is a new bill progressing through parliament that will have an impact on users of certain online forums.

The Online Forums Bill 2017-19, a private member's bill sponsored by the Labour MP for Manchester Central, Lucy Powell, is due to have its second reading in the House of Commons on the 23rd November and is:

"A Bill to make administrators and moderators of certain online forums responsible for content published on those forums; to require such administrators and moderators to remove certain content; to require platforms to publish information about such forums; and for connected purposes."

There are no documents relating to this at the moment as they are being prepared.

Now it all sounds fluffy doesn't it? Let's stop all hate speech on all forums and all social media.

But the problem for me is that it will be the overwhelmingly non-lawyer moderators and administrators that will be making the legal decisions on what is acceptable and what is not acceptable under the law.

It won't be an individual saying I don't want that comment on my forum because of my own personal feelings or taste, it will be them having to decide if it's illegal for that comment to be there or not.

This will of course make those responsible for monitoring such forums overreact 'just in case' and to self censor their own forums to ensure legal compliance.

Or ultimately it may mean people shutting down comments or even their forums altogether due to the risks involved – even though they've done absolutely nothing wrong themselves.

Over time they will no longer be discussion forums but bland pages on the web reinforcing whatever message the government wants to put out this week.

The social justice warriors will of course be over the moon about this.

Now, I've got a small, rather niche YouTube channel, but I received nearly nine thousand comments over the last 28 days on what the law could define as a 'forum' and I'm the only one with access to the channel control panel.

In fact, doing the maths I got an average of 315 comments every day for the last 28 days, some of which were quite lengthy.

I have not got the time to go through every one and analyse it for legal correctness, which is where this will, most likely, ultimately go.

And having visited many newspaper comment threads, which get thousands and thousands of comments, if not millions, I also wonder if they have the time and resources to give to this either.

I also have my doubts as to how even handedly this will be applied against administrators and moderators. If your site is on a topical hit list, then stand-by for state intervention.

There are already laws in place to deal with incitement and the like – what we are really seeing here is a move to ensure that only the nice and fluffy stuff, that does not challenge the state or its players, appears on the web.

There is a link to a petition on the parliament website against it in the descriptions box below.






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